Who Won The P.K. Subban For Shea Weber Trade? | Trade Trees

  • Опубликовано: 11 дней назад

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    Steve Dangle takes a look back at the 2016 Blockbuster that saw Montreal Canadiens' P.K. Subban traded to the Nashville Predators in exchange for Shea Weber and how that trade tree is still evolving to this day.

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Jeremy Gilbert
Jeremy Gilbert

Montreal wins

День назад
Pyrospriter042
Pyrospriter042

Always nice to hear my alma mater come up in videos like these. Let's go Tech!

3 дня назад
Brady Reiser
Brady Reiser

Probably not a popular one but the tj oshie trade to Washington

4 дня назад
William Woodsworth
William Woodsworth

Nashville won.

4 дня назад
David Manning
David Manning

Man, Paul Holmgren really grabbed the Predators by the cojones and squeezed.

5 дней назад
c chapman
c chapman

Need you even ask?

5 дней назад
Keiston Ballantyne
Keiston Ballantyne

Could you please do the Pacioretty trade tree ? How the Habs got Suzuki, or the Drouin/Sergavchev trade tree

5 дней назад
OzzyDo
OzzyDo

Subban had a pretty good season this past season

5 дней назад
Ron Austin
Ron Austin

The only way that you could say that the Habs won the trade is if you thought that it was Bergevin's plan to bring in Weber and be a mediocre team for 5 years. Poile acquired Subban to advance in the playoffs, and they did... Immediately.

6 дней назад
Ozma
Ozma

I remember when Philly gave the offer sheet to Weber, I was pissed for Predz fans. Another reason for me to hate Philly. Little did I know he'd play for the Habs afterwards! Side note: I called that trade to a friend before it happened. "Would you trade, say, Subban for Weber, change for change?" he laughed saying "What the hell this isn't NHL '15 cmon!!" well, whaddya know!

6 дней назад
Alex Racco
Alex Racco

Do a David Legwand Trade Tree

6 дней назад
Maître Renard
Maître Renard

Can't stop staring at Steve's right shoulder patch as it reminds me of a Dragonball.

6 дней назад
TactualOne976
TactualOne976

I think you forgot to mention montreal acquired the rights to Radulov

6 дней назад
cbjgirl23
cbjgirl23

ah the wonderful day of the PK/Weber trade, great day to be a hockey fan...or maybe a great hour to be a hockey fan

7 дней назад
Michael Trottier
Michael Trottier

Honestly, Nashville won the trade!!! Lets be honest. Yes, Weber took Montreal to the finals, but no cup either and now he's done. Meanwhile, Subban side of tree is still paying off for Nashville.

7 дней назад
TheSpacemannspiff
TheSpacemannspiff

Cam Neely Trade Tree 🌲 !

7 дней назад
Chris Jones
Chris Jones

I could watch that Marchand hit all day every day until the end of days. 😅

7 дней назад
Gino De Rose
Gino De Rose

Getting Subban for Weber was a great trade for Nashville. He helped them to the Playoffs and got them a great return when traded. Weber is an anchor. A mediocre player at best. Yeah Subban has fallen but still the better player over the time of the trade.

7 дней назад
TactualOne976
TactualOne976

it was for leadership and i mean nashville also traded rights of radulov which also helped montreal in the playoffs the following szn

6 дней назад
MrGreekGM
MrGreekGM

Preds should have taken the 4 1st's from Philly.

7 дней назад
Ajz0626
Ajz0626

If Montreal got swept (which they almost did), would you be saying "Got them within 4 wins"?

7 дней назад
AJR 1986
AJR 1986

Really? Nine and a half minutes (or around 60% of the video) before the trade tree is even broken down? There was more background blather than actual analysis of the trade tree! Like, c'mon...

7 дней назад
Thomas Miller
Thomas Miller

Would you guys be able to do the Phil Esposito trade tree? Love these videos!

7 дней назад
Jakob Vikström
Jakob Vikström

Skellefea 🖤💛🖤💛🖤

7 дней назад
Thierry Beaudry
Thierry Beaudry

Habs won hands down

7 дней назад
Jaimee Archibald
Jaimee Archibald

P.K. is no longer a good NHL player. The leafs need to avoid trading for him, even if the devils swallow a ton of the contract.

7 дней назад
Erik Brickarp
Erik Brickarp

Skill-left-ia is actually pronounced She-left-e-o in case it's referenced again in the future .)

7 дней назад
Procrumpets03
Procrumpets03

Personally I'd say its a tie, mainly because the Preds went to a SCF with PK and the Habs also went to a SCF with Webber. Maybe give the slight edge to the Habs, since the leadership from Weber was irreplaceable for their youngsters and PK kinda fell off a cliff soon after their SCF run.

7 дней назад
ch8888
ch8888

Montréal win if Weber is retired, because Nashville will pay the penality

7 дней назад
MiniMan J91
MiniMan J91

I was at the 2019 nhl draft

7 дней назад
Kova Doka
Kova Doka

Another great video Steve! I always love listening to trade trees while getting ready for work in the morning. Steve's enthusiasm and the music makes me happy :)

7 дней назад
Living With Spina Bifida
Living With Spina Bifida

I would like to see a trade tree where a team got a player back years later. Like Patrick Marleau for example

7 дней назад
William M. Buttlicker
William M. Buttlicker

Trevor Linden trade tree

7 дней назад
alphaspursncowboys
alphaspursncowboys

7:51 no because it was locked to Canada.

7 дней назад
Shaman
Shaman

If Nashville wins the cup, it's (now after 5 years) safe to say that it was not this trade that did it. Montreal wins the trade.

8 дней назад
Nick_OvO_X'O
Nick_OvO_X'O

Do the craig rivet trade from mtl to san jose. The trade tree is still going on

8 дней назад
Big eddy Machete
Big eddy Machete

They both won it and lost it at the same time only difference between both sides is one kept the player they traded they both got finals appearances out of the trade

8 дней назад
Ian Mudd
Ian Mudd

The Preds won the trade. Got the better player (and available player) from day 1 until PK was traded for more assets.

8 дней назад
Chris Stephen
Chris Stephen

Please don’t do a Hall for Larsson trade tree. That would be painful to watch

8 дней назад
Nick Ferguson
Nick Ferguson

Steve please do the craig rivet trade tree,

8 дней назад
nottoofaded2
nottoofaded2

Is there anyone more annoying than Steve Dangle? Not just in hockey, in anything.

8 дней назад
Marc Paradis
Marc Paradis

I thought you had done all the larger trades. I think you missed one: Heatley for Hossa +.

8 дней назад
Marc Paradis
Marc Paradis

Holy Crap, I just did a quicky drawup of the Heatly-Hossa trade. *Tabarnak* It involves Hossa, Heatley, Phaneuf, Hoffman, Duchene and..... Andy Sutton. 18 players and 7 picks, and that's only on the Ottawa side.

8 дней назад
Leafs Forever
Leafs Forever

Any team who rids themselves of Subban is the winner ! Ask any of his former GMs !

8 дней назад
Gui Dom
Gui Dom

If Weber end up retiring, Preds gonna pay remaining salary so big loss for them

9 дней назад
dustyb58
dustyb58

please tune down the background music

9 дней назад
Nikola Tesla
Nikola Tesla

Initially I thought Nashville straight up ripped off Montreal - not fleeced - but stole PK from the Habs, BUT as time passed I really don't know what happened to PK.. I mean PK was obviously younger was far more mobile and still had lots of potential left er room to grow where Weber had that contract and he was on the wrong side of 30.. I mean this trade really did shock me, but hey Weber's been Shay Weber in Montreal and the last few seasons haven't been the best for PK and he's bounced around like a pinball since leaving Montreal..

9 дней назад
Erik K
Erik K

Is there a way to find out which is the longest running trade tree? Either still running or one that has ended. Would be interesting to know!

9 дней назад
Nathan Samuel
Nathan Samuel

I was so mad when PK Subban got traded for Shea Weber one of the worst trades in NHL history

9 дней назад
sep sep
sep sep

If Weber is retiring, can Nashville trade for him to not be penalize or they get shafted no matter what ?

9 дней назад
I DONT GIVE A ****
I DONT GIVE A ****

No winner here. Weber is slow and lazy, and PK’s perfomances were never the same as when he was in MTL. That trade was just a waste for both teams and both players, and should’ve never happen

9 дней назад
Carter LaCorte
Carter LaCorte

I know you guys pre record the hell out of these, but if Phil Kessel is traded, you should do the Martin Hanzal trade tree. All part of the same one

9 дней назад
Raman Baig
Raman Baig

BRO LETS GO!!! I ASKED FOR THIS TRADE TREE TO HAPPEN AND IT DID!!!

9 дней назад
TARS
TARS

nashville rode Subban to a cup final, forever changing that team and its fanbase. Subban really was that good and I realize he's fallen off a bit, but he was a great dman and a money playoff performer. He also was key in Montreal's surprise runs in 2010 and 2014. His skin colour meant he was unfairly treated by some hockey fans and that is an absolute shame.

9 дней назад
Henry Hazlitt
Henry Hazlitt

The $18mill excuse only angers the ignorant.

9 дней назад
Stephen Lylyk
Stephen Lylyk

You're a leafs fan who has yet to do the doug gilmour trade tree

9 дней назад
Matthew Gannon
Matthew Gannon

the true winners are the Penguins and the Lightning

9 дней назад
Nate Ballou
Nate  Ballou

U gotta do a Taylor Hall trade tree! He's been part of some odd trades. I'm happy he's finally on a good team where he isn't expected to be "The Guy" and kinda carry the team plus what makes it better is he's on the team I've cheered for my whole life...The BRUINS!!!🐻🏒🥅

9 дней назад
Billy Howell
Billy Howell

Hey! Eemil Viro was in this one. Hoping he makes it to Grand Rapids in the next season or two.

9 дней назад
Jakub Hanák
Jakub Hanák

You forgot that one of the main reasons why the Preds opted to trade PK was to create cap space to sign Matt Duchene. He was basically a return in that trade. Great move at the time, however, Duchene's deal is not as good as Preds fans were hoping

9 дней назад
meme dream team
meme dream team

Montreal won

9 дней назад
mr. nihilz
mr. nihilz

Craig Rivet to SJ from MTL.

9 дней назад
number41dl
number41dl

Taking requests? Paul Coffey from the Oilers to the Penguins. First big trade of the 80s Oilers, and there’s a ton of moving parts to that one.

9 дней назад
ShawnBlaque
ShawnBlaque

Of course a fun, exciting, dynamic player like Subban didn't fit in with the culture of the Habs lol

10 дней назад
USA Sucks
USA Sucks

Egotistical. Not a lot of defensive awareness and beef with teammates in the locker room. That’s why they traded him, not because he didn’t fit in with the culture of the team like laughs fans say they did.

8 дней назад
meme dream team
meme dream team

Bad defensively, showboat, had personal fights with 3 players in the dressing room. Learn your hockey before you talk, clown

9 дней назад
Austin Curl
Austin Curl

Brandon Sadd Trade tree please

10 дней назад
Ken Hamada
Ken Hamada

How did the Flyers get away with tampering with that Shea Weber offer sheet. Yes, the Predators matched it, but the terms were ludicrous, even for today's standards. The Flyers should have been sanctioned, cause now there is incentive for other teams to try and tamper with another team's cap, even if they fail. I kind of fear which team will try and tamper with the Canucks with Elias Petterson and Quinn Hughes needing new contracts soon.

10 дней назад
Jamie Finch
Jamie Finch

Do the Luongo Florida > Vancouver > Florida trade tree.

10 дней назад
BigJizz
BigJizz

Mark Messier trade tree?

10 дней назад
Ixacey
Ixacey

why didnt you mention who the two seconds nashville traded back from are

10 дней назад
mrutherford1106
mrutherford1106

Steve: "how has it already been a half decade?" Me: wait the trade wasn't in like 2012?

10 дней назад
Chris Pilon
Chris Pilon

I always remember it was in 2016 because it was the same day Hall for Larsson happened lol

9 дней назад
Chris C
Chris C

Start doing Cup Trees, and how Cup winning teams were formed

10 дней назад
The Great Badon
The Great Badon

Taylor hall and Erik karlsson trade tree🙏

10 дней назад
Andrew Gonos
Andrew Gonos

How about a trade tree involving Jaromir Jagr from Pittsburgh, to the Caps. Eventually, it'll involve several teams, some conditional picks, future considerations, and Anson Carter.

10 дней назад
MajorMoose
MajorMoose

you should do the ryan mcdonaugh trade tree between the habs and the rangers

10 дней назад
Love Bunny
Love Bunny

Subban is not a force anymore, sorry.

10 дней назад
USA Sucks
USA Sucks

Hope Weber can make a comeback and win a cup. His home towns not actually that far away from mine.

10 дней назад
McWerp
McWerp

Y'all need to do older trees. These trees that don't really have an end just arent the same.

10 дней назад
Rak Chazak
Rak Chazak

Hated it when it happened, loved PK, but I think Weber was the better option he is a true leader that helped build that team dynamic the habs now have

10 дней назад
Volcanoman
Volcanoman

I dunno - the difference between Weber "taking the Habs to the Finals" and Subban "taking the Preds to the Finals" is not insubstantial (noting that neither player "took" their respective team to the Finals...they had a role, but it's a team effort, and it is important to separate out what the individual contributed to it). The Predators had a formidable defensive corps that year (and over a longer period centered on that year). They had Josi, Ekholm, AND Ellis, in addition to Subban. And yes, Subban had 2 goals and 10 assists in that playoffs, but Josi had 6 goals, 8 assists, Ellis had 5 goals and 8 assists, and Ekholm had 1 goal and 10 assists. So 12 of the 14 goals scored by their top 4 (actually, their whole defense; Matt Irwin and Yannick Weber chipped in 3 assists, but no goals) were not scored by Subban (Subban scored 10 of 39 assists by the top 4). So an argument could be made that Subban was Nashville's 3rd-best offensive defenseman that year (and probably their 3rd-best on defensive assignments as well). If Shea Weber had been a member of the Preds in the 2016-17 season, I think they would have done maybe a bit better than they made out with Subban; Weber that year with the Habs was absolutely TERRIFYING. Now, let's compare 2020-21 P.K. Subban and 2020-21 Shea Weber. Because that's what this is all about - if this trade never happened, what would the two teams' fates be? And there is little doubt in my mind that there is currently almost no difference between the two. Offensively, they are quite similar now, while defensively, I give the edge to Weber. So the trade helped Montreal more than it did Nashville in the first couple years afterwards, and right now, it's a wash between Montreal and New Jersey. And Nashville...Kunin's been great, and the prospects are still developing...but Montreal did a lot with Weber this year, and Nashville got decidedly less out of its return for Subban. Thus...the edge has to go to the Habs, if for no other reason than Nashville might have hoisted the Cup in 2017 if the trade hadn't happened (Subban was good that year, but Weber was better). Just my opinion.

10 дней назад
Daniel Dosso
Daniel Dosso

Philly won this trade

10 дней назад
Spooks Dinat
Spooks Dinat

I'm one of many who hope to see Shea Weber play again! The man is a beast on the ice and such a gentleman off the ice, I don't want to see him, or any player for that matter, retire due to injury

10 дней назад
John Lines
John Lines

Who won the trade? Always the team that ditches Subban. So overrated. The fact he won a Norris just diminishes the value of that trophy. He's an egotistical mess. When pressured he leans into his undeserved reputation, tries to beat the entire opposing team solo, and either throws the puck blindly or just coughs it up. His contract is one of the top worst in the NHL. In fact considering he's actually worth less than half of what it pays him it may be the worst. Go back and watch the finals series that Nashville lost and you'll see two things. Subban turning over the puck and the rest of Slashville chasing Crosby around the ice.

10 дней назад
tchevrier
tchevrier

Subban has never been a Norris trophy caliber d-man. How he won it in 2013 is beyond baffling. And then there is his "me first" personality. Didn't sit well in Montreal. Didn't sit well in Nashville.

10 дней назад
Brenden Sergent
Brenden Sergent

Steve lied. PK Subban wasn't French enough for Bergivens Montreal Canadiens.

10 дней назад
Brenden Sergent
Brenden Sergent

@Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand not a leafs fan, but seriously look at who they have gone after. French Canadian looking players and even traded someone that could never look that way

10 дней назад
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand

Leafs fan moment

10 дней назад
Tyson Warkentin
Tyson Warkentin

Hard to discuss who won without talking injuries. Shea Weber missed a lot of games with an ankle injury, and PK with his back issues missed time in Nashville too. Both these guys have had their careers altered by injuries and this trade, that's important to note

10 дней назад
svenusling
svenusling

That was an interesting way to pronounce Skellefteå... :D

10 дней назад
Andrew Wilkinson
Andrew Wilkinson

Habs won that trade easily. Subban isn’t even on the same team nor a top pair D. Weber just went to the finals and is still a top 5 shut down D.

10 дней назад
Jimmy Lavoie
Jimmy Lavoie

Plot twist: everybody lost! Both guy were never the same after they were traded... PK has been running all his life on confidence and it all went away when his childhood team trade him. Weber was one my favorite mean D since Chris Pronger and i was excited to see him in the bleu blanc rouge... but he never was the human mountain from Nashville, he kept it simple in MTL never got in trouble but his style doesnt age well in this new fast paced NHL and it showed this year vs Edmonton. Since Markov left we never had a real OFD to transition the puck and i think PK wouldve been more usefull to us. And i think the Preds playoff stretch the next year could've been different with the Leadership of a Weber in their line-up

10 дней назад
Jimmy Lavoie
Jimmy Lavoie

@Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand So the Culture is if there another major plague we have our chance? Cause we prolly wouldnt've make the playoff, especially 2 years ago

10 дней назад
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand

@Jimmy Lavoie well they did for the last 2 years and did damage in them playoffs COVID or not you can’t take it away Édit: more than a team we’re familiar to see choke too

10 дней назад
Jimmy Lavoie
Jimmy Lavoie

@Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand A culture of losing? Cause yeah hes a good leader... but what can you lead when you dont even go over 82 games...

10 дней назад
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand
Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand

@Jimmy Lavoie the culture was always changed for the best recenct bias or not

10 дней назад
Jimmy Lavoie
Jimmy Lavoie

@Samuel “Marchyyy63” Marchand Since we acquired him in 2016 missed the playoff 3 times (almost 4 before Covid added them in 10th place) We never won a single round before last year so you did prove that recency bias is real

10 дней назад
Ethan K
Ethan K

You should compound my misery as a Sharks fan and do a trade tree on how the Sharks traded the pick that was Chris Pronger

10 дней назад
Ethan K
Ethan K

@Reaver please don't remind me... I'm still not over drafting Falloon ahead of Neidermayer

10 дней назад
Reaver
Reaver

Or the Seals trading the first that turned into Guy Lafleur

10 дней назад
Liam o 009
Liam o 009

Can you guys Do a Taylor hall trade tree?

10 дней назад
Earlene Feltham
Earlene Feltham

Do a Taylor hall trade tree

10 дней назад
Ilia Ponomarev
Ilia Ponomarev

I tend to think Preds traded Subban for Duchene. Well, for cap space that was used to sign Duchene. And it's a horrible deal so far.

10 дней назад
bsinger51
bsinger51

This Trade Tree is great, but you seriously need to go back and look at the Brendan Shanahan trade from the early 90's that had Brendan Shanahan traded from the St. Louis Blues to the Hartford Whalers. This tree eventually leads to the Blues drafting Jordan Binnington, who was another BIG reason why the Blues won the Stanley Cup in 2019. Thank me later!

10 дней назад
Les Caldwell
Les Caldwell

drunk comment

7 дней назад
Lionel Rust
Lionel Rust

Weber will end his career on the Coyotes ltir

10 дней назад
Jim
Jim

For every team who had to put up with Subban, that's a Dang It.

10 дней назад
Håkan Lövgren
Håkan Lövgren

Need to work om the pronunciation on Skellefteå, And when you’ve done that work on the local dialect way of saying it. 😅😅

10 дней назад
Hank Houlé
Hank Houlé

Has a MTL fan, if Kunin keep improving, Nashville win this trade tree. Despite the fact P.K is slowing down I still regret him.

10 дней назад
Hank Houlé
Hank Houlé

@Alex P He was playing with heart. Always giving everything on every shift !

9 дней назад
Alex P
Alex P

I miss PK too, although I've got nothing but respect for Shea. PK was larger than life and it was nice to see a genuine superstar with a superstar's personality in Montreal. I think the Habs could have handled his whole career better, although I'm sure there's things he could have done differently too.

9 дней назад
classwar420
classwar420

too soon

10 дней назад
Brad Arsenault
Brad Arsenault

Leafs fans will say Montreal lost the trade

10 дней назад
SnipeShow___89
SnipeShow___89

They did, subban was much better than Nashville than Weber was in momtreal

10 дней назад
the bosnian gaming 442
the bosnian gaming 442

since the flat cap was announced before the 20-21 season, cap recapture will no longer be a thing. if weber retires nashville won’t have to pay 20+ million against the cap

10 дней назад
Colonel Green
Colonel Green

No, cap recapture is still a thing, they just changed how it's applied, so it doesn't all happen in one season.

10 дней назад
NyRangersfan1357
NyRangersfan1357

Devils lost everybody else won

10 дней назад

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